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Answered by Shaykh Hamza Karamali, SunniPath Academy Teacher

A male urinates and subsequently notices that some other fluid comes out after the urine.  Does this necessitate another ghusl, or can one assume it is pre-ejaculate and treat it as such?

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

In the Name of Allah, Most Merciful and Compassionate

This fluid is most likely wady, something that sometimes exits after one urinates (especially if one is constipated) or after carrying something heavy.  The ruling for this liquid is that it necessitates wudu but not ghusl.  Reliance says: 

“e10.5            The purificatory bath is not obligatory:

1.       when there is an unlustful discharge of thin, sticky, white fluid (madhy) caused by amorous play or kissing;

2.       or when there is a discharge of the thick, cloudy white fluid (wady) that exits after urinating (O: or carrying something heavy).” 

Remember: for something to be considered ejaculate it must have one of the three characteristics (either that it exits in spurts; or that it exits with sexual gratification; or that when it’s moist it smells like bread dough and when dry, like egg white).  If none of these characteristics are present (and none of them are when wady exits), it is not ejaculate and does not necessitate ghusl.

And Allah knows best.


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