The Kursi in relation to the ‘Arsh

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Ibn ‘Abbas (radiyallahu ‘anhuma) said: “The Kursi is the place of the feet of Allah, and the size of Throne cannot be known.”

This was narrated by Ibn Khuzaymah in at-Tawhid, 1/248, no. 154 and Hakim in Mustadrak. He classed it as authentic according to the conditions of Bukhari and Muslim and Dhahabi has agreed with him.

Is the statement of Ibn ‘Abbas (radiyallahu ‘anhuma) sourced from an Israeli description [Israiliyyat]?



This narration is authentically reported as the statement of Sayyiduna ‘Abdullah ibn ‘Abbas (radiyallahu ‘anhuma) as you have cited above.

(Mustadrak Hakim, vol. 3 pg. 282)


It is possible that this was sourced from a Historical source. It seems that ‘Allamah ‘Ayni (rahimahullah) was of the view that Ibn ‘Abbas (radiyallahu ‘anhuma) got this narration from Nabi (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam).

وقال شجاع بن مخلد في تفسيره حدثنا أبو عاصم عن سفيان عن عمار الذهبي عن مسلم البطين عن سعيد بن جبير عن ابن عباس قال سئل النبي – صلى الله عليه وسلم – عن قول الله {وسع كرسيه السماوات والأرض} قال كرسيه موضع قدميه والعرش لا يقدر قدره إلا الله تعالى كذا أورد هذا الحديث الحافظ أبو بكر من طريق شجاع بن مخلد الفلاس فذكره قال ابن كثير وهو غلط وقد رواه وكيع في تفسيره حدثنا سفيان عن عمار الذهبي عن مسلم البطين عن سعيد بن جبير عن ابن عباس قال الكرسي موضع القدمين والعرش لا يقدر أحد قدره انتهى (قلت) أراد بقوله غلط أن رفعه غلط وليت شعري ما الفرق بين كونه موقوفا وبين كونه مرفوعا في هذا الموضع لأن هذا لا يعلم من جهة الوقف

(‘Umdatul Qari, Hadith:  4535)


Nevertheless, the narration should be quoted as authentically reported, i.e. As the statement of Sayyiduna ‘Abdullah ibn ‘Abbas (radiyallahu ‘anhuma).


And Allah Ta’ala Knows best.


Answered by: Moulana Suhail Motala


Approved by: Moulana Muhammad Abasoomar

This answer was collected from The answers were either answered or checked by Moulana Haroon Abasoomar (rahimahullah) who was a Shaykhul Hadith in South Africa, or by his son, Moulana Muhammad Abasoomer (hafizahullah), who is a Hadith specialist. 

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